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Jim: Hey! I'm
Cramer... and, yes... It's
1:30pm... I'm going to talk
to you about an afternoon
delight!... I'm doing the
same darn show I do every
night! I do not care that it
is at 1:30pm... And, for the
next two weeks, I'm coming
to you live with this...
with my calm, centered... my
statesman-like person...
Now, you'd better get ready
for the best two weeks of
your life, so let's make
some Mad Money...
Three stories... three
stories in the naked city
are controlling this market
today...
First, the endless pummeling
in oil... you think that
one's done? No... And you
know I think it's going to
go lower. I was using a $110
(price per barrel) floor on
my regular show. I don't
even know if that can hold
anymore. It feels like the
floor of a building after a
big chemical fire...
Now, the concomitant
rebound... in retail... and
that reflects the $3.50
price at the pump... that I
think you'll be getting in
two weeks...
And then there's the
incredible bank stock
rally...
Let's talk about that...
let's talk about the latter
for a moment... Because,
c'mon... that's what this
market's really about...
even more than the decline
in oil... because it is at
the fulcrum at what is going
to be going right with the
market, but what's supposed
to be going wrong... It's
supposed to be killing us...
I read the papers
everyday... I mean, God...
No, actually, I've got to
stop reading the papers...
It's too negative...
I can't take it. If you
listen to the bank bears,
everything's worse than it
was four weeks ago... The
losses are increasing... the
auction rate preferreds...
Hey, how horrible is that?
They're biting...
How about the mortgage
implodameter?... now a
measure of how many
homebuilders are going
under... German banks are
repossessing Vegas vanity
projects... Freddie Mac...
Money is not their fault...
that they didn't compromise
standards...
I mean, haven't things just
gotten worse and worse and
worse?... To which I say,
uh, let me give you some
evidence that would probably
suggest otherwise...
I'm giving you some July
15th lows, when I said that
was the bottom... versus
where they are now...
Ambac
(ABK)...
$1.70... that's where it
was. Now, it's at $4.19.
MBIA Inc. (MBI)...
remember that one? Wasn't
that like in the "do not
resuscitate" list?...
$3.90... $8.70.
Oh my God...
Wachovia Corp. (WB)...
$8.90... Now $18.60...
Bank of America (BAC)...
Before, at $18... Now,
$33...
Fannie Mae (FNM)...
yes, FNM... was at $6.90.
Now, that's at $8.30...
Freddie Mac (FRE)...
fried Mac... $4.05... Now
$5.89...
How about this one?...
Wells Fargo (WFC)...
$19 bucks... Now $31
bucks...
Oh my God...
Lehman Brothers
(LEH)...
It was at $11... Now it's at
$19.50...
Even lowly worm,
Washington Mutual (WM)...
$3... Now $4.08...
And, get this...
Citigroup (C)...
I mean, wasn't C supposed to
be down really, really big
on the auction preferred?...
$14 bucks... Now $20...
Incredibly, even
American International Group
(AIG)...
which is outrageous... and
I'll follow up on that at
the end of the show...
$20... Now $24...
Now, when I made my bottom
call two weeks ago... which,
of course, was disparaged,
because I am deeply hated...
I was simply speaking that
we would not violate those
levels...
There's a host of other
commodity-consuming
companies' levels that also
hit bottoms at the same
time, with a peak in oil,
that I also don't think will
be violated... retail...
restaurant...
My evidence doesn't say that
things are going to work...
I believe that
Fannie Mae (FNM)
and
Freddie Mac (FRE)
will have to be bailed
out...
And, how about this?... The
Federal Government crushing
the common (stock), contrary
to what the regulars are
saying...
I do believe that
Washington Mutual (WM)
may not have enough money to
get by...
I do believe that
American International Group
(AIG)
will have to do another
gigantic financing... more
on that later...
I don't think that
General Motors
(GM)
or
Ford (F)
common shareholders will
necessarily will have any
more to show for it during
this year than the
Sirius XM Radio
Inc. (SIRI)
shareholders have in the
end... and, yes, I'm talking
that too...
I do believe that housing
will not bottom, until the
end of 2009... even though I
was sucker enough to buy a
home, but I had to... I was
renting. I do believe that
one or two of the major
homebuilders will go
under... It hasn't happened
yet...
What I'm saying is... that
there are so many reasons to
look bearish... and it ain't
working...
I am simply saying that,
despite all those negatives,
I do not believe that we
will take out the July
lows... because we should
have by now, right? We
haven't...
Instead, we've seen
commodities collapse...
inflation collapse... and
the Fed even has the ability
to cut if it wants to...
All right, let me give it to
you in little bottom line...
. . . . .
The Bottom Line!:
What I'm saying is, despite
everything that you read in the papers,
we haven't collapsed yet... And, if we
haven't collapsed yet... well... when
will we?... Maybe we won't at all. The
July 15th bottom stands. That's why I
like it...
There's a stock that many of
you own... It's a stock that
I'm asked about the most...
It's a stock that appears to
have been... Well, it has
hurt people... and yet, the
product is a loved
product... So we've got to
deal with the notion that
you can have a loved product
and a bad stock... and
whether they ever meet...
Where's the twain meet?...
SIRI... That's it. Mel
Karmazin is the CEO, and
we're going to find out what
the heck is going on...
Jim: Okay, it took 1
year and 158 days... and it
was overdue... And, when I
look at your financials,
Mel... I think that the
FCC... not me, not Jim
Cramer... but the FCC cost
you a billion dollars...
Mel Karmazin: That's
not the way I look at it,
okay... I guarantee you Dish
and DirectTV would have
liked to have the merger
done, so the fact is that it
took a long time... it
shouldn't have taken this
long... but it was worth
waiting for, because I think
that these companies today
are going to capture the
values and you're going to
see the stock improve... You
know, I can't control the
stock. I can only control
the company, and we are
doing everything right.
Jim: Mel, how is it
that a big event occurs...
the event we're all looking
for (the merger of XM and
Sirius)... and that night,
the stock goes from $2 and
change to $1.50?...
Mel Karmazin: In
order for to close the
merger, we needed to finance
$1.25 billion. The week
before, we went into the
debt market, and wanted to
raise $400 million, and we
raised $700 million. The
last $500 million needed to
come in the form of a
convertible bond... and it
needed to come the day we
closed, because we couldn't
close it in escrow...
Jim: Meaning, you
didn't want anyone holding
the deal up...
Mel Karmazin: We knew
that the NAB was going to
try to get a stay...
Jim: Meaning the
National Association of
Broadcasters, who hate
you... I mean, they just
like hate you so much. They
hate you personally too...
Mel Karmazin: They
hate us because of the
damage we're doing to
terrestrial radio, so I
don't take it personally...
but I don't care... But, at
this point, we needed to
close the merger... We
needed to close it that
night, and I could've taken
a risk of saying, well,
let's wait until the
financing... We got the deal
done. There were an awful
lot of deals that didn't get
done. We got this deal done.
We raised... very ugly... we
raised $1.25 billion of new
money. Now, the deal is that
we're focused on running the
company, now that we've
closed it... Do I wish the
market wasn't that way when
we closed it? Yeah, but what
could I do? I could've
closed or not closed... I
took the hand that I was
dealt...
Jim: All right, you
have another financing that
comes up... well, actually,
in the winter...
Mel Karmazin: We
have... to just get it
totally out of the way...
Next year, in 2009, we have
three pieces... An XM
convertible bond... a Sirius
convertible bond... and some
bank debt... We've already
discussions... We think that
the sooner we put those
issues behind us, we can
focus on the fundamentals...
Jim: But Mel, I have
traded convertible bonds in
my life... and what I would
do is, on a ratio, short as
much common stock as I can
in order to take out the
risk of any sort of default,
and own the convertible
bond... You have to get the
stock to $4 and change, in
order to block me from doing
that...
Mel Karmazin: The
thought of a default is
ridiculous... but you can
predict anything you want...
Jim: Well, you know,
if you're a convertible
arbitrager, you don't really
have that choice... You lock
in the yield, and make sure
you don't have a big
principal risk...
Mel Karmazin: I need
to deal with what's out
there... So, are people,
arbitragers, out there
playing games?... All we can
do is to grow our free cash
flow, get the stock to
reflect our value and, if we
screw people along the way,
because they bet against us,
that's they're business.
Jim: Okay... I like
that. Now, Goldman Sachs,
who just despises you...
Mel Karmazin: So
why... I don't mind you
doing that... but there are
20 analysts out there. One
is out there with this
viewpoint. You don't have
the guys out there with the
$6 (price targets)...
Jim: Listen, if
you're stock was at $20, I'd
be focusing on these guys...
Those guys are guys who all
thought you'd be at $20...
Here's a guy who says you
should be at $1, so he's got
credibility...
Mel Karmazin: So,
they think that we're worth
$4 billion. There are other
people out there who believe
that we're worth over $12
billion... so we'll have to
see... He has been working
with the hedge funds for an
awful long time...
Jim: Meaning that you
think that he is in league
with people who would like
the stock to go lower, which
is a serious charge, but
that's okay...
Mel Karmazin: In my
humble opinion, I know what
kind of reports he has
written. He's entitled. It's
America... I support it.
Jim: But he does say
that you're going to have a
very difficult time selling
retail in the next four
months, because nobody knows
which radio they should buy.
That's been a very important
market for you...
Mel Karmazin: And
Jim, that's what we're going
to focus on now... now that
the merger has taken place.
When I joined the company,
we had $67 million of
revenue... $67 million. We
have $2.4 billion of
revenue. That is our run
rate. We've talked about the
efficiencies of the merger
and how, with the
efficiencies of the merger,
we're going to have positive
EBITDA next year...
Jim: 400, but you've
not talked about this year.
You've given us no numbers
for 2008.
Mel Karmazin: Because
this year, we've just got to
XM. We just found out what
is at XM. We're going to
give... We said, right after
Labor Day, we're going to
have conference calls for
investors, so we can tell
them what's going to happen
in '08 and give them more
color for '09...
Jim: Okay, you've
been fair in answering the
tough questions... I have
both Sirius and XM... I have
them in two different cars,
because I'm a huge believer
in both, and they wouldn't
let me have it in one car...
I want to listen to Howard
(Stern - on Sirius), but I
also want to listen to
(Major League) baseball (on
XM)... What are my
options?...
Mel Karmazin: So,
right now... we love what
your option is... You pay
$25.90 a month, and you get
both of them... But, if you
don't want to buy both of
them for $25.90, you'll be
able to get Howard this
fall... and you should
assume one of our promotions
that we'll have at retail
this fall is promoting the
best of Sirius on XM, and
visa-versa... That will be
stimulating sales at retail
this fall.
Jim: How much quickly
fat take out... You've got
some really... I've been to
the studios... I mean, you
guys are living large...
Mel Karmazin: I
started taking it out on the
29th of July... the day I
was in that building. So, we
have already named an
Executive Committee... we
have already terminated,
unfortunately, a number of
people. We're already
eliminated a number of
contract work... We're on
the way right now to
delivering that EBITDA and
free cash flow.
Jim: Their car
business is terrible... I
know you're also trying to
get the used cars to
activate, but they have no
interest... those dealers
don't have any interest...
Why should we not worry
about a $12 million car
build... which I know you do
address, but I wanted to
give you a chance...
Mel Karmazin: That's
not accurate. The people do
want a deal with the used
car market... Last year, we
added 5.7 million gross
additions in OEM (Original
Equipment Manufacturers -
new cars)... XM and
Sirius... This year - a
terrible year... maybe 12
million cars produced...
Because we're penetrating
more models, we're going to
add well over 6 million...
We will add more OEM
subscribers calendar year
2008 than we did calendar
year 2007, even though
Detroit is selling less
cars...
Jim: The IPOD?...
Mel Karmazin: IPOD...
competition...plenty of
competition...
Jim: Terrestrial
radio... can you destroy it?
Will you destroy terrestrial
radio?...
Mel Karmazin: No,
we're not going to destroy
it...
Jim: Why not? You're
supposed to say yes... darn
it!... Remember the script
we went over?
Mel Karmazin: AM
radio will be around for a
long time. You know, we will
become the biggest thing in
radio... Tell me one company
in the audio entertainment
business that you like
better than Sirius?... Who
has $2.4 billion? Who is
growing revenue 25%?...
Jim: I don't, I
don't...
Mel Karmazin: So you
pick a company in this space
that's better than us... Do
we have competition? Yeah.
Do we have challenges? Yeah.
Jim: All right, I've
finally got the Phillies
(Philadelphia baseball team)
and the Eagles (Philadelphia
football team)... That's
what I've always wanted.
And, of course, Howard...
Mel Karmazin, you're fair...
I had to hit you hard,
because people think I've
cost people money on this. I
know you wanted this deal
done earlier... Hey, well
done... Mel, thank you very
much. I appreciate it.
. . . . .
THE OUTRAGE OF THE DAY... American International Group
(AIG)
Okay, everyday, from 1:30pm
to 2pm... and everyday, I'm
going to have an outrage...
Because there are plenty of
things about this market
that get under my skin...
But every single day, I'm
going to pick something that
really infuriates me...
that's outrageous...
okay?... And it's not that
Target (TGT)'s
up $4... or that retailers
are doing great... No.
It's about something that
I've read that I think is
outrageous...
This weekend, because I'm a
really interesting guy, I
went back over the September
5th analyst meeting that
American International Group
(AIG)
had...
And there was something that
then-CEO Marty Sullivan
said... He goes, "I don't
wake up in the morning
worried that I'm going to
have to dilute the
shareholders by issuing
additional common equity or
cutting our dividend."
They spent a full day
talking about how they had
almost no exposure
whatsoever to what was going
on. They had professors...
they had a guy named Gary
Borton from the Wharton
School... they were starting
to use a lot of models...
and they said they would
show no more loss than $314
million. That was about $20
billion later...
I'm furious at them, and I'm
not letting up!...
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The Half" Show Comments ]
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