Final Segment #1:
'Know Your Limits'...
Friday, January 16, 2009

SPECIAL EPISODE:  "STAYING IN THE GAME"...

Don’t flee for the sidelines, hold your ground and don’t let them shake you...


Jim:     How can you stay in the game when it seems sometimes like the whole deck is stacked against you?… that is a question I am answering right now…I hope that I have helped… I hope I have helped a little bit when it comes to avoiding and enduring the pain that sometimes you will have to take… a say a little bit again… because remember when a tough market occurs as you know… that I am not a loss as to what to do… but you recognize that there is not much that I can do to keep you whole… just trying to get you back to even… right… now I want to stop right now… I want to stop you from getting panted.

This is for all you home gamers.. some brokers do want to rob you blind… and if you haven’t watched this show very often, then you are probably handing them your wallet… by placing market orders instead of limit orders… especially if you are buying low dollar amount stocks… market instead of limit, listen up… do you feel like every time you make a trade that you always pay more and get less than expected in the price… we can change that right now… because even a few cents a trade counts, especially when you are down big....

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Market Results today:

Dow + 68

Nasdaq + 17

S&P 500:  + 6

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Jim:      Before I can make everybody out there understand this… I need to deconstruct it… to take it apart… a couple of words that you and even I use too often without elaborating and explaining what they really indicate… and the words are buy and sell… do you know those two words mean nothing on Wall Street…. nothing… you will never catch a professional saying buy or sell… the words are too imprecise… look the stock exchanges are probably the last places in America where you can really haggle over prices… where you can actually watch supply and demand set prices… when you see a stock quote in the paper, that is not the stocks price… in the same way that $199 might be the price for an I-phone… no, no… it is just the last price that someone paid for it… in other words, the close of the day, it is the last price that happened… 401, we are at a different price.

When you buy a stock, you can call your broker and say I want to buy 500 shares of X… and when I say X by the way, I am using a random stock, not just US Steel… if that is all you say, I want to buy 500 shares of X, that is what is called a market order… now I gotta tell you something… only suckers place market orders… don’t be a sucker… because you end up buying or selling at the asking or bidding price… depending on which end of the deal you are on… the guy that you are transacting with the help of your broker, who doesn’t want to spend an extra few minutes trying to help out a small time client… no, no he will just take what he wants… so you don’t want to buy or sell… no you don’t want to buy or sell calls… you don’t want to say that… you don’t want to place a market order…you got that… I am trying to really discourage that.

You want to place a limit order… limit orders keep you in the drivers seat… they keep you from being totally ripped off… and they are really easy to execute.. so from now on when you call your broker or you go on the internet… just make sure you tell them the highest price that you are willing to buy at… or if you are selling, the lowest price that you are willing to sell at.. those are the limits of a limit order… that’s not so hard… so what is the problem… the problem is that some brokers don’t want you to do this… usually they don’t want to tell you not to use market orders… with a limit order your broker knows that you transaction might not happen… maybe nobody wants to buy at the price you are asking… no trade… no commission… these guys get paid on commissions not much else… but a market order will always go through right… there is always someone who is willing to buy or sell at any price… not only that but with a market order the brokerage house can pair your order with someone else’s if they want to and get both commissions… likely at a price, that could be at a disadvantage to you… paying that little extra for that market order or getting a little less when you sell with a market order… could be the difference between a profit and a loss… the difference between staying in the game and throwing in the towel and giving up because you can’t believe the price that the broker comes back with… now the limit price is going to be your price. Please, if you listen to nothing else I say… use limit orders instead of market orders… and you will be way ahead of a lot of the jokers out there… there is absolutely no downside to limit orders for the trader… if diversification is the only free lunch… limit orders are the only free breakfasts in the business…. there is a free sausage McMuffin, if you call that a breakfast.

Here is the bottom line….

 

 

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The Bottom Line!:     The best way to stay in the game is to make sure that no one is taking advantage of you… how do you protect yourself… use limit orders, and you can know that at least your broker isn’t cheating you.

Don’t let the brokers take advantage of you - limit orders could give you a leg up...      Make sure nobody is taking advantage of you…. don’t get pantsed … get smart… don’t use market orders… but a limit on them and then you will never get ripped off.



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Jim went on after this segment to take questions from callers, and responded with his comments...

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Q:     I am retired from Amgen, I am on my second career teaching special education, and I need to protect my portfolio. What is your advice on trailing stop loss, to lock in my profits, and I should I use dollar or percentage? And part two, is what about trailing stop limits to buy in the dips?

Jim:      I am not in favor of that, in part because let’s say that the market is down 200 and you put a limit order in, boom, you get executed and then the market closes down 600... the market is way to volatile for that… I like to monitor things… I think that the kinds of markets that we developed at the beginning of 2007... have become markets where it is almost irresponsible to use those kind of stops… if you can’t monitor your stocks, the way you buy and sell them… I am now actually saying… give it to somebody else… put limit orders in, yes… if you are going to be there… but just don’t put yourself at the mercy to cancel orders or anything like that… it is just too dangerous… this market is just too volatile and you are going to end up feeling ripped off… and if you end up feeling ripped off then you are going to want to not be in stocks anymore… and then R.J. I have not done my job.

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Q:     As a small time investor, I invest on a monthly basis, I invest $120 a month and I have done that for three years. I am just wondering how do I get my broker to treat my small time investment as if I were a millionaire, and how can I trust them?

Jim:      First, I think you are doing it just right… you need to know that right up front… second, I like to piggy back… let’s say that someone you know already has an account with a broker… okay… and it is someone substantial… or a group of people using the same broker… they are going to treat you well… because they don’t want to have this word of mouth against their whole, or a large part of their client base… unless you go online… I like to talk to people… well, I don’t buy or sell stocks anymore… but I liked it at the time… except for
ActionAlertsPlus.com, my charitable trust… I would urge you to be part of another group of people… because otherwise you are not going to be treated well… Marge, it’s a shame… but the industry is not created for someone who buys stocks of your size… and I know that… if anyone reads Confessions of A Street Addict, you’ll know that when I first started, the brokers laughed at me because I was buying in increments of 8 and 9 shares of stocks… and believe me, I came after everyone of those… and everyone of those people is now… no, I just took a beating and moved on.

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Q:     I wanted to ask you a question about volume spikes. In particular, what I will notice on certain stocks you will see a trade at the very last minute of the day, where a massive volume of shares will trade. I mean, I am talking about 10 or 12 million in one chunk, I used to see something like that on level 3 back when that was promising. What is indicated when that buyer holds out until the very, very last minute of trade? How could we profit from that? Is that a vote of confidence for the stock?

Jim:      No, Michael, there are two reasons why that often happens… one is there is a big batch of market on close orders… very hard to try to predict what that will be… so I can’t help you make money with that… when a stock is out of the S&P at the close… if it has a big market on close order… it is called mock orders… also, when stocks pair off at expiration, a big market on close orders… and because of the various market funds, they have market on close orders… they are really hard to gain, I don’t think you can make a lot of money… the other kind of big volume ones are at the close of the Nasdaq… and there what happens, is someone, a broker might be accumulating stock all day and then prints it at the last point… it is called printing… or someone might be selling all day and trying to disguise it and then they put the trade up… again, nothing you can do… wish they didn’t do it… but those are situations… I always like to tell you when I can give you an edge and make you money… I can’t give you an edge or make you money… and nor can anybody else… and if they claim they can… they are wrong.

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