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'Off The
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Tuesday,
February 3, 2009 |
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Jim's
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FCX* |
25.17 |
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Jim:
Most favorite new
segments… what can I
tell you… so we are
going off the charts
to look at a beaten
down copper & gold
producer….
Freeport-McMoRan (FCX*)…
this is a stock that
has fallen from $127
to $25 making a pit
stop at $17... it is
one that my
charitable trust
owns, AAP… you know,
look, on this show,
you know us, we are
fundamentalists…
meaning we believe
in looking at the
facts about a
company to decide
whether to invest in
it… not that
adherence of Cotton
Mather… or for a
more contemporary
reference Jerry
Fallwell… but we
also know that a lot
of big money
managers out there
like to make their
decisions based on
technological
analysis… meaning by
looking at the
action in the stock…
at its’ chart… and
using that to
determine when to
buy and when to
sell… just so you
know.. today’s
rally, a lot of
people felt it was
technical in nature…
that we reached a
level where we were
oversold and we
bounced… there is a
lot of mumbo jumbo…
total
Wall Street jibberish when it
comes to the
technicals… but you
know what, it is
mumbo jumbo we
respect… because so
many traders and
investors believe in
it… including many
who are in the
closet about it…
they say that they
are fundamentalists
but they are not…
that doesn’t mean we
believe in it
though… technicians
are the true
fundamentalists…
most of them are on
a crusade to convert
everyone into their
way of thinking..
they want a global
technical analysis
caliphate. |
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Tuesday,
February 3, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
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Jim (cont'd):
So with that in
mind…what do the
charts say about
FCX… according
to this time we
are using Dan
Fitzpatrick, he
is my colleague
at
TheStreet.com,
where I am
chairman… he is
our go to guy
for technical
analysis who is
both really
smart… and he is
not all that
dogmatic… take a
look at the
weekly chart…
according to
Dan, FCX is
oversold and in
recovery… the
stock is well
below its 200
day moving
average… that is
a longer term
piece of
jargon.. meaning
how close a
stock has hugged
its trajectory…
in this case, FCX isn’t
anywhere close
to it, okay… it
is much lower…
according to Dan
the maximum
power of the
sellers peaked
in early
December… when
FCX was 80%
below its 200
day moving
average… the
stock is still
65% below that
average… so
according to the
charts… which
remember we
don’t
necessarily
believe in…
there is still a
lot of upside
potential… so
once again,
stock bottomed
here… it is
still way off
this 200 day
moving average…
they think it
can go up closer
to that… it is
still way below
it.
The December low
marks the start
of what is know
as a base… this
is considered to
be a base by
guys like Dan…
it is a place to
be able to have
a launching pad
to go higher…
share holders
are becoming
value buyers…
have been
stepping in at
these low
prices… but they
do not have to
pay up because
there has not
been that much
buying interest…
so they buy a
bit and then
they back away
if the price
starts to rise
too much.. the
new buyers are
very
disciplined…
they do not
chase… then the
stock declines
and when it
falls far
enough… the
value buyers
come back in…
see here… and
here… they just
keep coming
back… now the
technicians will
be saying that
the stock is
being
accumulated by
the value
buyers… all this
stuff about the
base is very
important to
people who like
to go by the
charts… because
to them after a
big down trend
like FCX has
seen… the
prolonged period
of base
building… means
that people who
bought at higher
levels have
exited… these
guys all topped
out… or are
willing to hold
it for the long
term.. they are
the ones who
won’t be
panicking in the
down turn… these
guys… anybody
who is left
ain’t selling.
Now, lately FCX
has seen higher
highs and lower
lows… again
something that
indicates to the
technicians that
buyers have
become more
aggressive than
sellers… for
chart watchers
that is a very
bullish sign…
and according to
Dan Fitzpatrick…
because of the
lack of near
term selling
pressure any
break out in the
stock has a
chance of moving
it much higher…
so what he is
saying that with
that base you
could have a
sudden sharp
movement up….
and I am going
to give you a
little more
reason why the
fundamentals say
that could
happen… the
supply has been
taken out… that
is what the
technicians are
saying… the new
share holder
base who look to
be in it for the
long haul say
that any new
buyers need to
reach higher to
buy stock… cause
these guys are
not sellers…
they are in it
for the long
haul… it is not
being dumped on
their heads and
sold into
rallies… so the
technicals are
positive.
Now, let’s talk
about what I
think caused
this bottom… and
the is
Freeport’s
fundamentals… I
don’t know about
the value
buyers, and the
buying pressure,
and the selling
pressure… I know
about what
happened.. do we
agree with what
the chart is
supposed to be
saying… I do…
see FCX put the
negatives behind
it when it
reported its
fourth quarter
earnings last
week… and
delivered a
quarter that was
no worse than
the analysts
expected… that
is why I think
the stock has
had a little bit
of a jump here…
the company has
taken aggressive
action to
strengthen its
cash position…
it did that when
the stock was
down here…
eliminating its
dividend that is
when the stock
was at $17...
lowering its
debt… and
announced a $750
million shelf
offering… FCX is
now in a good
position to
weather the down
turn… it wasn’t
all the way
down… it wasn’t
until here that
it got in good
position… great
management has
been around for
decades… has
seen multiple
boom and bust
cycles… a month
ago people were
nervous about
Freeport’s
liquidity… now
once again, when
they were
nervous it was
right here… they
were worried
about potential
debt covenant
violations… but
the companies
pro active
measures seems
to have taken
those concerns
off the table…
in other words,
FCX bit the
bullet down
here… which is
why we believe
it bottomed… I
don’t care what
the chart says…
that is why I
think FCX is the
single best way…
right now… to
play the copper
market… and in
an eventual
recovery in
global demand…
several
producers have
shut down
production… only
representing 2%
worldwide
capacity… the
price of copper
I think has
stabilized… it
is not going up
yet.. FCX has
the best assets
in the industry…
something that I
think is
impossible for
the competition
to replicate…
they have a lot
of stuff in East
Asia… and don’t
forget China
represents 30%
of the demand
here… so its
aggressive
stimulus program
should lead to
higher copper
prices… that is
one of the
reasons why I
think it is
starting to go
up… that will be
terrific for
FCX… I am also
betting on
China… you know
that… it is the
only major stock
market up double
digits in
2009... they are
a huge importer
of copper when
things get hot…
and they will be
importing from
Freeport.
After that bad
quarter which
included huge
losses related
to write downs
for asset
impairments,
good will in
inventory… that
was all related
to the big
purchase of
Phelps Dodge in
2007... that was
anti competitive
copper deal if
ever there was
one… the company
is now taking
steps to return
to
profitability…
FCX lowered its
net cash cost by
20%… its net… 71
cents a pound
for 2009... that
means they are
making money
right now with
the price of
copper all the
way down to
$1.50... it was
at $4.08 right
here… so you see
why this thing
went down… price
of copper was at
$4.08 and it
went to $1.50...
that is what
happened… I
don’t care about
the chart… FCX
marginal costs
of production…
the cost of
mining each
additional pound
of copper is
between $1.30
and $1.40 that
is pretty tight
with copper at
$1.50... that is
why the company
is cutting back
production by 5%
in 2009... 7% in
2010... they are
eliminating
unprofitable
production… but
other companies
have not been as
bold… so I think
more production
cuts in the
industry are
coming… which
should mean
stronger pricing
a real positive
for FCX… and I
think that is
how we get back
to there… FCX is
in great shape
financially… no
major debt
coming due until
2015...
perfectly poised
to benefit from
recovery in
copper prices…
now 2009 is a
trough year for
the companies
earnings… its
only selling at
8.6 times
earnings… it
looks
inexpensive
compared to the
multiple it had
historically in
trough years.
Here is the
bottom line…
The Bottom Line!:
The
technicals
and the
fundamentals
are in
harmony on
this one…
both the
charts and
the fundies
say that
Freeport-McMoRan (FCX*)
is a buy,
buy, buy….
you can see
when we are
in harmony…
the chances
are much
better that
we will get
a spike.
At last!
The
fundamentals
& the
technicals
agree! I
think FCX is
a buy!
Tuesday’s
were Off The
Charts… this
week we like
both the
fundamentals
and the
technicals
for
Freeport-McMoRan…
we are
buyers.
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Jim went on after
this segment to take
questions from
callers, and
responded with his
comments...
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Q:
I am in the scrap
metal business, and
I have noticed that
copper is falling
while I am watching
precious metals such
as gold and silver
just like go up, up
and up. What is that
all about?
Jim:
Okay, copper is
directly a
reflection on China
being stalled… I
think that the fact
is that the Baltic
Freight Index, which
is a good measure of
sending bulk stuff
like copper… bottom
is 600... it is now
over 1100... the
Chinese market was
up about 12% so far
this year.. these
are all precursors
to what I think will
be a bottom in
copper… you are
absolutely right
sir… Clayton is
right… there hasn’t
been a bottom yet…
but I don’t think it
is going to go much
lower… which is why
I am bullish on
Freeport-McMoRan (FCX*).
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Q:
The wife and I are
both retired, and
like everyone else
we have take 35% or
40% loss in the
market. And we don’t
think we are going
to live long enough
for the recovery.
With the fed policy
like it is and the
stimulus pork
packages coming out
every two weeks,
when the bottom
finally hits, what
will inflation look
like in 2 or 3 years
from now? And should
I be buying gold
bars in hand?
Jim:
Okay, I personally
think that I am… we
have to get thru the
deflationary period…
it will be followed
by an inflationary
period… I don’t
disagree with you
one bit… I think
that every time gold
is down you ought to
be buying
Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (AEM)
or buying
streetTRACKS Gold Shares
(GLD)
which is the proxy
for gold.. if you
want to own bullion
… that is fine… see
if your bank will
let you… I believe
that that is a
reasonable… if not…
and later on I will
be saying this as
soon as we get a bit
of a turn… necessary
part of any
component of a
portfolio.. I think
you are doing it
right Larry… and
please do not give
up on the market
longer term… I agree
with you… the next 3
or 4 years not going
to be pleasant.
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