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Opening Segment #3: |
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'Executive
Decision'
'More Than
Skin Deep' |
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Wednesday,
February 4, 2009 |
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Jim's
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Closing
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AGN |
40.28 |
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Is there a point
when the economy
gets so bad, people
stop caring
about their
looks?...
Jim:
We have always
believed that the
desire for smooth,
wrinkle free skin
and then bodies… not
to mention large
breasts… is the
grease that
lubricates the
wheels of commerce
across America and
across the globe…
but what happens
when those wheels
grind to a halt… are
people willing to
sacrifice the
products that give
them their good
looks in an economic
downturn… according
to
Allergan Inc. (AGN)…
which makes Botox,
and Juviderm for
wrinkle free skin…
silicon breast
implants for… well
you can probably
guess that… and the
lap band system to
help people lose
weight… the answer
is no, no, no, they
are not … Allergan
reported its fourth
quarter earnings
today and they held
up… beating the
streets estimates by
.03 cents… the
companies total net
sales did decrease
by 3.2%… but that
was on the stronger
dollar… on a
constant courtesy
basis sales were
actually up by 1.6%…
and the stock
rallied . 48 cents
to close at $40.28
despite the nasty
day… that is still
way off its high of
$69... but still a
nice move off its
$29 from November of
last year.
Allergan isn’t just
doing well because
people want to look
good no matter what…
the company is also
doing great when it
comes to execution…
which is critical in
this market where
only the strong
survive… for
example, while
Allergan’s total
revenues declined by
3.8% sequentially…
the company reduced
its cost of goods
sold by 4.1%… and
its sales general
administrative
expenses by 3.1%…
the company also
announced its
restruction plan
laying off 5% of its
sales force… it is
dealing with the
downturn… of course,
a lot of what is
working at Allergan
is real medicine…
not just cosmetic
stuff… Allergan gets
about 70% of its
sales from medical
products… 30% from
asthetic ones… in
2008, Allergan got
45.8% of its sales
from its eye care
pharmaceuticals
division… that is
products to treat
glaucoma,
inflammation, and
dry eyes… commands
35% of the global
ophthalmology
market… now Allergan
said that is
expected the strong
dollar to hurt it’s
business in the
first three quarters
of 2009... they
still expect to grow
earnings by 5% to 7%
this year.. the
company also expects
to have $1B in cash
to generate $650
million in cash flow
from operations this
year… so it has no
money worries.
The company looks
like it has what it
takes to weather the
downturn and come
out stronger for it…
but don’t take it
from me… let’s hear
from Allergan’s CEO
David Pyott…
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Wednesday,
February 4, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
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Jim:
Mr. Pyott,
welcome back to
Mad Money...
David:
Thanks Jim,
it is always a
pleasure to be
with you. You
always do such a
great rendition
of my company,
you should
almost be
working here.
Jim:
Now, look I have
been a proud
supporter of
your company for
many, many
years… because I
know that to
have just a
traditional slow
growth, high
yielding
dividend stocks
that big pharma
has become… we
don’t get a lot
of capital
appreciation,
which is what I
look to Allergan
for.
David:
Well, as you
know, we really
believe in
strength and
diversity. As
you stated on
the
pharmaceutical
side, which is
70% of our
products,
reimburse
products we did
very well. In
fact, in
ophthalmology
for the 7th year
in a row, we
have been the
fastest growing
global
ophthalmology
company world
wide.
Jim:
David, I felt a
one point today,
that because
your so
identified with
Botox… your
stock is
actually… and
that was when
things were
great… a driver
for the stock… I
think that to
focus to be an
ophthalmology
stock matters…
because people
realize that it
is not just an
all cash
business, right?
David:
That is
right, that is
the strength in
diversity. And
of course the
second key
driver is the
strength of our
R&D pipeline.
And today we are
very fortunate
on top of the
recent approval
of Latice, which
is our eye lash
enhancing
product,
Paycentuate, the
original drug is
the same one
approved for
glaucoma now for
some 8 years. It
is going to be
great. But then
we have on top
of that, 6
products sitting
under review at
the FDA, 4 drugs
and 2 devices.
Jim:
Give us a sense
of what could be
as big as some
of the things
that you
currently have
right now.
David:
Well, I
think as a short
term driver, the
biggest one is
going to be
Latice, which is
going to be
another example
of where
Allergan can
create a new
category. And
for our doctors,
the asthetic
specialists,
this is going to
be a great
traffic builder
in a difficult
economy, and of
course, appeal
to a different
demographic than
those that have
historically
looked for Botox
and Juviderm.
Jim:
Alright, you
better explain
to people what
Latice does
exactly, and why
anyone would ask
for the product.
David:
Well,
particularly for
all the ladies
in the audience,
can you imagine
a product that
increases the
length, darkness
and thickness of
your eyelashes.
I don’t know any
woman over
certainly
teenage years
that says, I am
not interested
in that.
Jim:
Hey, listen I
got some woman
who makes me up
and does that… I
can’t figure out
what people like
about it… but
then again I am
not an older 63
year older, I am
a 63 year old
guy… so I get
that… now can
talk about this
lap… you know,
we have talked
about how you
are competing
against J&J with
the lap band,
how is that
going?
David:
Pretty good,
unfortunately
the lap band
business
economically was
affected because
the market
slowed down. A
year ago, the
world market was
growing 60%, now
it is a mere
26%. But we have
really held our
own, we have
held pretty much
the same market
shares since
summer time. And
we believe that
we have just a
shade over 70%
market share.
Jim:
Alright, David,
help me on this…
lap bands,
people might not
now makes you
thin.. which
obviously makes
you look better,
but is also
healthier… Botox
I kind of
regard… it is
not healthier…
but it sure does
make you look
better… which do
people cut back
on more,
something that
makes them thin,
or something
that makes them
look more
youthful?
David:
Unfortunately I
think that is
related to the
price of a
procedure, so
the higher the
cost of a
procedure the
more likely it
is to be
affected by cost
and the
downturn.
Jim:
Are doctor’s
cutting the
price… is there
like a price war
with medicines
for the first
time.. with
their… with
Restilane… for
Juviderm?
David:
Yes, they
certainly on the
dermo-filler
side engaged in
some major price
discounting. We
do, however,
have felt that
it was
appropriate to
offer, lets call
them promotions,
to get patients
back into the
office. And
right now we are
offering thru
the doctors
office, coupons
for Botox for
$50, and for a
second syringe
of Juviderm a
$100 coupon.
Jim:
Wow, I never
thought that you
would have to
coupon these
products… that
is interesting…
but that will
keep your sales
going for 2009,
won’t it?
David:
Absolutely,
and I think as
you encapsulated
in your opening
remarks, our job
is to assume
that the economy
is going to be
pretty
challenging
world wide for
the remainder of
2009, make our
plans
accordingly. And
then we got paid
to manage our
way thru it, and
especially
emerge with a
very strong R&D
pipeline at the
other side.
Jim:
Excellent, David
Pyott, chairman
and CEO of
Allergan, thank
you so much for
being on Mad
Money.
David:
Thank you.
Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Guys, this is a
complicated story
right… if the
economy comes back
this one has a bit
of an economic
tinge… but in the
interim they are
developing a
pipeline that makes
them look a little
bit more like Pfizer
with growth… this is
a tough call… in
order to endorse
them right here I
would like to think
a little bit more
strongly about the
economy… and I don’t
have that… I do know
this… the company
has got a long
history of
delivering… I trust
him when he says
that the pipeline is
good… I trust the
sales in Botox… but
when I hear that
couponing… I got to
tell you… I get a
little nervous.
[verbatim recap]
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