Investors are moving
toward medical
device makers for
stability...
Jim:
What is working
right now?… Is there
anything out there
that we can depend
on in this market…
where even many of
the soft good stocks
that are considered
ultra-recession
resistant are
struggling… there
are no sure things
when it comes to
stocks… especially
not in this chaotic
moment… but so far
this year the
medical stocks and
more specifically
the medical device
makers have been
working… that is
right, these things…
year to date
St. Jude Medical Inc. (STJ),
big medical device
company up 10.6%…
Boston Scientific Corp. (BSX) up
13.7% the
speculative one in
the lot…
Medtronic Inc. (MDT) is
up 3.4%…. while the
S&P 500 is down
7.7%… and the lowly
DOW is off 9.5%…
investors are
looking for safety
right… and they
found this group…
this medical group…
because you don’t
stop getting pace
makers… or stints or
new heart valves…
totally none
discretionary
medical products
that people need… to
keep living… even if
the economy stinks.
In uncertain times
you want to go with
the best of breed…
that means companies
with proven
management…
consistent
innovation… and
solid execution… for
those of you who are
new to the show and
watching… because of
that incredibly
positive in
Barron’s… the one
who called me a hard
working genius… who
has spent more time
on Wall Street than
many other
journalists…
flattery will get
you everywhere so I
will always refer to
something this
positive… in the
medical technology
business St.
Jude is best of
breed… there is no
question about it
anymore… it has been
able to sustain
consistent sales
growth over the last
3, 5, and 10 years…
and around or about
15%… how many of
your companies can
grow like that…
there is no such
thing as foolish
consistency when it
comes to business…
that is just
excellent… over the
last 3 years St.
Jude has averaged 20
new product launches
annually… imagine if
there was a Tide… a
new Tide… and
Ultra-new Tide… and
each one did
something special
and different as
opposed to just
being packaging… the
company gets about
62% of its sales
from its cardiac
rhythm management
market… that is
implantable
defibrillators and
pace makers… they
are also pushing
hard into the heart
valve replacement
market… and
something that I
find incredibly
exciting… neuro
medicine.
But this is why I
would love St. Jude's
if it wasn’t a
stock… because that
is just a piece of
paper… on their
fourth quarter
conference call
Daniel Starks, who
does a very in-depth
(overview), he is the
CEO of STJ… “We have
not seen any
weakness. I suspect
one companies
weakness might be
another companies
share gain.”… and
even better than
that… “The fourth
quarter was a pretty
bad quarter from a
global economic
perspective. And in
the fourth quarter
we delivered our
strongest, constant
revenue growth of
the year.”… I think
that is pretty
impressive… it makes
me think that St.
Jude is about as
recession resistant
as you can get right
now… but before I
deliver my final
verdict… let’s hear
from Daniel Starks,
the man who gave
those great quotes
in the conference
call…. St. Jude's
chairman and CEO...
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Wednesday,
February 11, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
Start of Interview
with
Daniel Starks, CEO
St. Jude Medical...
Jim:
Mr. Starks welcome
to Mad Money...
Daniel:
We are flattered
that you are giving
St. Jude Medical
this time in your
spot light, thank
you very much.
Jim: Alright, I have
been struggling… we
have all been
struggling in the
market… now I
mentioned to people
that in the
conference call you
talked about how
there really is no
relation at all
between the economy
and your stock. Can
you please tell us
why, in your own
words, that we
shouldn’t care about
the gross domestic
product of the
United States if we
buy St Jude Med?
Daniel:
Jim, it is
because we are in
the right market,
with the right
products at the
right time. We not
only are saving
lives, but our
products are also
saving money. We are
creating jobs, in
2008 we created over
1004 new jobs, we
expect to create
approximately 2000
new jobs in 2009. We
are really on
anybody’s short list
of high spending
priorities, and
relatively resistant
to global economic
trends.
Jim:
Now, one of the
things that… and
this is a difficulty
I have as a mass
show… is that when I
read thru the
excellent research
on you… and I go
thru your
unbelievable
conference call…
which I really
recommend anybody do
before buying the
stock… it is
difficult… I mean
you are not mincing
words… you do not
talk about in broad
sweeping terms what
your products do…
you get very
specific… and it is
hard… it is hard for
a layman like me… if
you had to say what
are your 3 greatest
new initiatives and
what do they do to
the human body, what
would you say then?
Daniel:
One of them
would be our
implantable
defibrillators that
you mentioned. Every
day in the United
States between 800
and 1000 people are
dying of sudden
cardiac deaths. Our
device can prevent
many of those
deaths, that is one
major innovation. A
second innovation,
the technical term
is atrial
fibrillation, the
upper chambers of
the heart quit
working, only the
lower chambers beat,
that leads to heart
failure, it leads to
an increased risk of
stroke. We spend
literally billions
of dollars a year,
poorly addressing
the challenges of
atrial
fibrillation.
St. Jude is a leader
in developing
technology to help
cure that disease
state. Perhaps, the
third area would be
the neuro area that
you mentioned. We
have a number of
initiatives there.
One of the very
interesting ones, is
stimulating the
brain in a way that
can help treat
chronic drug
resistant
depression.
Jim:
Well, I have
got to tell you…
thank you for doing
that because it is
daunting… but I want
people when they buy
your stock to
understand how
integral you are to
the new form of
medicine… one of the
things… I do some
work for the Michael
J. Fox Foundation
for Parkinson
Research… can you
talk about… I know
it is early… we
never want to give
anybody false hope…
but you seem to be
doing some pretty
break through stuff
with Parkinson's?
Daniel:
We are. We are
just bringing into
the market in Europe
this year, a
technology to
stimulate a portion
of the brain for
people that have
Parkinson’s disease
that can alleviate
the major symptoms.
So it is cost
effective, it saves
money. It provides
more benefit than
drug treatment in
the early clinical
experience to date,
and as you say, we
do not want to raise
false hopes, this
won’t be a treatment
for everybody. But
it is very
promising.
Jim:
You also had a
statement in your
most recent
conference call
which is dated from
Feb 6 last week… I
haven’t heard this
phrase about any
product , anywhere
in the world… you
talk about the
growth with supply
constraint… are you
telling me that you
would have had even
better numbers if
you could produce
more product?
Daniel:
Absolutely.
Jim:
Tell us what is
supply constraint…
because we are not
used to hearing that
term anymore on the
show?
Daniel:
Well, this
is a new technology
that we began to
bring into the
market this last
quarter. It is the
smallest, longest
lasting, most
programmable
miniature pace maker
designed to
alleviate chronic
pain in patients
that are suffering
from failed back
surgery, or have
chronic pain from
other cause. And we
delivered 32% growth
on a year over year
basis with this new
product, our new
technology called
our Eon Mini. Our
growth would have
been higher if we
had been able to
manufacture more of
them.
Jim:
Amazing. Mr.
Starks one of the
things that I also
wanted… because this
is a segment where I
am really excited
about the stock… but
also excited for
people who rare
listening… let’s say
you heard any one of
these things that we
just mentioned…
Parkinson’s…
defibrillator… the
device that you just
mentioned… are these
things that you
should be asking
your doctor to have?
Daniel:
It depends on…
it depends.
It is so
specific
that I
cannot give
you a good
general
answer. But
there is
website
information
available
that
patients and
family
members of
the patients
can look at
stjudemedical.com
offers a lot of good
medical information,
and that would be a
good starting point
to help guide a
possible discussion
with a physician.
Jim:
One last
question… we
mentioned about the
market share thing…
Wall Street they had
an article about a
resurgent…. Boston
Scientific… are you
shaking?
Daniel:
Well, Boston
Scientific is a good
company, it is full
of good talented
people. We regularly
beat them.
Jim:
Man I thought
you were going to be
too diplomatic for
me. You are a great
statesman sir. Thank
you very much, Dan
Stark chairman and
CEO of St. Jude Med.
Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Alright, guys do you
want to sleep at
night… do you want
to have a company
that is not going to
be rocked by Tim
Geithner… by bank
failure… by
ridiculous
unemployment that we
cannot stop…
alright… well you
just heard it… but
please do the
research… understand
it is a hard
conference call… the
Wall Street research
is pretty good… I
don’t know about you
but I am blown away.