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Opening Segment #3: |
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'The
Golden One?'
CEO
Interview
with
Paul Wright,
CEO
Eldorado
Gold |
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Wednesday,
March 25, 2009 |
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Jim's
rating on
this stock |
STOCK
SYMBOL |
Closing
price that
day |
Full Company Name |
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EGO |
9.26 |
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Eldorado Gold Corp.
(EGO)
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I think it’d be
smart to buy gold on
the way down,
especially with the
weak dollar...
Jim:
I have said
endlessly that you
need to have some
gold exposure in
your portfolio… as
insurance against
global chaos… or
inflation… we are
printing a lot of
money… I told you to
buy it on the way
down… either in the
form of the
SPDR Gold ETF
(GLD), the
tracking stock for
gold…
Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (AEM)… or
Eldorado (EGO)… now
that the Fed has
rolled out the
printing presses and
our hero with a halo
Ben Bernanke is
practically pouring
dollars out of the
proverbial
helicopter he always
talked about… we
have got a weaker
greenback… that is
like gold to reverse
trajectory and start
going higher… if you
bought some on the
way down, hang on…
if you didn’t… is it
still worth trying
to get your hands on
some of the precious
metal… yes, with the
weaker dollar it is
barely even a
question… so what do
buy… how about
Eldorado, up 16.6%
since I recommended
it a month ago at
$7.94... that is
better than the GLD…
that is down 1.3%
but not as good as
Cramer fave
Agnico-Eagle that is
up 17.7%… I like
Eagle because I saw
it as a 57 variety
Heinz ketchup play…
EGO… does it still
make sense… I would
like to know.
But Eldorado sure
looks good… EGO is a
cheap producer, its
cash costs for 2009
around $300 an
ounce… come on we
have gold at $900...
while most of its
competitors are at
$400 an ounce… also
got great growth all
over the globe
Turkey, China,
Brazil, Greece…
growth production
set to grow 10% this
year… another 20% to
30% in 2010... a new
mine in Turkey…
Eldorado was all set
to do a big equity
offering $275
million loonies in
equities… yeah, it
is Canadian… but the
company withdrew
from the offerings
sighting unfavorable
terms… Eldorado
doesn’t seem to have
a dire need for the
money… $110m in
cash, no debt… I am
glad that the equity
offering did not
happen… but I am
also concerned that
it might try
something similar in
the future… to
dilute the value of
your shares… gold is
a must… is Eldorado
the right way to
play it… and it is
so near its 52 week
high… it is my job
to help you do your
homework… and
because you can’t
ring up the CEO’s of
publicly traded
companies and ask
you questions on
your own… and that
is very important
for researching
stocks…. I do it for
you… so let’s talk
to Paul Wright,
President and CEO of
Eldorado Gold… hear
what he has to say
about the business…
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Wednesday,
March 25, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
Jim
(cont'd):
Mr. Wright,
welcome to
Mad Money...
Paul:
Good
afternoon,
Jim. How are
you?
Jim:
Not
bad. Your
stock has
been on a
tear. Do you
think that
it is
forecasting
higher gold
prices? or
just
forecasting
great
earnings for
EGO?
Paul:
I
think that
it is
probably a
combination
of both,
Jim.
Jim:
Well,
if that is
the case,
should you
take
advantage of
it and issue
equities so
that you can
grow. Or are
we okay here
with all
that cash
that you
got?
Paul:
I
think that
with the
cash balance
that we have
we are well
equipped to
continue the
asset base
that we have
within the
company. And
we have
demonstrated
in the past
our ability
to grow
internally,
and we are
certainly
going to do
that. Is
further
growth
outside of
the assets
that we have
possible,
yes. Could
that mean
additional
equity, that
is a
possibility.
But again we
have a
history of
when we
complete
transactions
or
acquisitions
of
continuing
to increase
our share
price so
this should
not be a
concern for
shareholders.
Jim:
Excellent.
There is a
cost profile
that you
have that I
regard among
the best.
Why are your
costs so low
vs. all of
the other
gold
companies
that we talk
to?
Paul:
Well,
the
operations
that form
the basis of
our
production
are largely
based on
discoveries
that we have
made and
taken thru
sometimes
the
torturous
path thru
development
and into
production.
And the
companies
for the last
15 years has
exercised a
fairly
disciplined
approach
towards
building a
company that
is based on
long lived
low cost
assets. We
are a
growing
company, but
we are not a
company that
is going to
grow at any
costs. An
objective of
ours is to
remain in
the lowest
quartile of
production
costs, and
that is
where we sit
and that is
where we
continue to
see
ourselves.
So it is a
fairly
disciplined
approach,
and paying
attention to
detail.
Jim:
Will
the new
projects
that you are
bringing,
like we
mentioned
the Turkish
project,
will they
bring your
costs up in
2010?
Paul:
No,
actually the
Turkish mine
will bring
our unit
costs down.
The project
that we are
developing
in Greece
will also
bring our
costs down.
The third
project that
we are
involved in
in Brazil,
is a
slightly
below
industry
average but
I think that
if you look
at the
blended
average of
all of these
new projects
and our
existing
mines, they
will enable
us to stay
in the lower
quartile.
Jim:
That is
great. Now,
what do you
think is
driving, if
you can
break down
what is
driving
gold. How
much of it
is
speculation?
How much of
it is actual
use? Jewelry
buying at
times is
accounted
for 60% of
gold use,
but this is
typically
not the
season when
jewelry
buying kicks
in. So I am
wondering if
it is mostly
speculation
that is
driving the
price of
gold higher
right now.
Paul:
Well,
you are
certainly
seeing a lot
of gold
going into
the SPDR,
the gold
shares. At
total demand
this year it
probably
represents
35% to 40%
of total
gold demand
contrasted
about 4% in
2008. You
can choose
whether that
is
speculation
or whether
that is
investment.
But
certainly
there has
been a shift
in the last
6 to 9
months to
the SPDR
gold shares
away from
what people
consider to
be
conventional
jewelry.
Jim:
If you
don’t mind,
because not
all of our
viewers are
understanding
that. In
other words,
what you are
saying is
that there
is an actual
stock
basically
that is
buying the
gold.
Because it
needs to
equal the
demand of
the common
stock
buyers.
Paul:
Well,
again, it
relates to
people who
want to hold
gold and the
ETF’s
provide
people to do
that without
physically
having to
hold the
gold
themselves.
Jim:
Okay,
what do you
have going
in China, I
think that
you are the
only North
American
producer of
gold in
China.
Paul:
We
were the
first North
American
producer in
China. And
that has
been very
successful
for us. And
we are
looking to
frankly
capitalize
on the
benefit that
it has
provided for
us as being
the first
North
American to
invest real
capital, and
obviously
provide
profitable
production
and a tax
base. And
that has set
us apart
from some of
the other
competitors
in China as
being a
credible
partner for
Chinese
joint
venture.
Jim:
For
those of you
are watching
March
madness,
this is not
in reference
to you. You
have got a
project
called Villa
Nova, which
seems to be
an outlier
for you. An
iron ore
project. Why
do we want
iron ore in
our gold
company?
Paul:
It is
was sort of
an
opportunistic
situation
that came
our way
while we
were
exploring
for gold.
Cost of
access was
very, very
low. Low
capital
investment,
low
technical
risk. And
frankly the
numbers
suited our
purpose.
Jim, it is
not a core
asset to us,
it is one of
these
situations
that at some
point that
we may elect
to demonize.
Jim:
I would
use it to
beat Duke
tomorrow
night. Mr.
Wright,
thank you so
much.
President
and CEO of
Eldorado
Gold
Corporation...
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Guys look if you
want a gold stock I
am indifferent… I
think this one has
got the cheapest
cost which makes me
like it very much…
you heard him talk
about the SPDR, the
GLD… that is also
great… you have to
decide what you
like… if you want a
stock and you want a
stock that is
inexpensive… even
though it has moved…
and you need a gold
situation… I think
this fits just fine.
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