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Tuesday,
April 14, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
Jim (cont'd):
Second, companies
with decent
fundamentals that
are trading at or
near their cash…
this is a no brainer…
eventually that cash
is either going to
be put in a floor,
or put the floor in,
or will allow the
company to do
something that will
take the stock
higher… in other
words, if there is a
company that is
selling thru its
cash… there is
another company that
is going to come in
and buy it for the
cash.
And third, the
strategy that I want
to talk about right
now… you should be
buying what I call
the accidental high
yielders… what is an
accidental high
yielder…. it is a
company that before
getting hit with
enormous declines,
paid a modest, maybe
some would even say
meager dividend…
because it was very
cautious… then after
its share price fell
precipitously… it
became a high
yielder… this is
like an ugly
duckling into a swan
of a 4% yield… not
because it wanted
to… but because the
market relentlessly
pushed down its
stock… the market
kept giving it the
business… we can
trust the
accidentally high
yielders most of
which are industrial
companies, like a
Nucor or a
Caterpillar… because
they never really
paid big dividends
to begin with… they
were stingy…
normally when you
see a company with a
big yield and in
times of a really
awful bear market
like we have seen…
you will see some
smoke stack
industrial stock
yielding upwards of
6 or 7.
The big danger is
that the dividend
will be cut… high
yields are more
often a sign that
something is wrong…
than a sign that
something should be
bought… but the
accidental high
yielders do not fit
that profile… even
if their earnings
are about to be
chopped to pieces by
a dire economic
slowdown, and you
should expect that
to happen to their
earnings… plan for
the worst, and I
would tell you to
hope for the best…
but hope is not part
of the equation…
these companies will
still be able to
afford to pay that
dividend because
they always kept it
small… they were
able to pay the
dividends in past
recessions… they can
pay it in the
current one… that is
one reason to like
the accidental high
yielders… the
dividend is
reliable… now,
nothing is etched in
stone… no dividend
is completely 100%…
if we go into the
second Great
Depression… the
theory may not work
as well.
The second reason,
is drop dead
obvious… they are
paying you lots of
money just to sit in
the stock… never
dismiss dividends
just because they
tend to be where
older, more
conservative
investors go for
income and not
growth… money in
your pocket is money
in your pocket… that
yield can augment
your returns… and in
fact if you reinvest
it in the stock, and
you have got a long
term horizon, it can
make you plenty of
money even if the
stock totally sits
still… this is the
rule of 72... if you
reinvest your
dividends into the
stocks that paid
them… they will
compound over time…
and with any of the
compounds you divide
72 by the yield to
find out how long it
will take for your
money to double… so
if you buy an
accidentally high
yielder that has got
a 5% yield… you will
double your money in
the stock in 14 and
a half years… a
little less actually
because the rule of
72 is just a rule of
thumb… and this is
even if the stock
goes nowhere.
Does 14 years seem
like a long time… it
shouldn’t when it
comes to your
retirement
portfolio… it is
where you need to
think in terms of 14
years… it is where
you need to think in
terms of decades…
not months or years…
in the down market a
stock that is
yielding a 4%, 5%,
or 6% is not to be
ignored, simply for
the yield…
especially if it is
the kind of company
that you never
expected to have a
juicy dividend
payout… and remember
also, that a lot of
the S&P’s
performance has
come, almost half,
has come from the
dividend portion…
not just the capital
gain.
The way to buy these
stocks and to sell
them is to use wide
scale space, not on
the stock price, but
on the yield… what
does that mean… it
means to buy some
and then buy some
more when it yields
more… lets use an
example, you want to
buy 200 shares of an
accidental yielder…
the accidental
yielder is paying
out 4%, that is when
you buy 50... only
50, a quarter of
your position…
because in an awful
market you can bet
that stocks can go
lower… and that
means the yield is
going lower… you buy
the next 50 shares
when the stock
yields 4.5%… and the
next at 5%… you have
got the picture… the
corollary to buying
an accidental high
yielder like this is
that if you have any
kind of trading
mentality… if you
have to sell them
when the market
rallies and the
yield drops below
4%… why… because we
like these stocks
when the market
stinks… that means
that we believe that
stocks in general
are going down and
that rallies are
ephemeral.
The smart thing is
to buy the stock
back later after it
falls and it is
yielding more than
4% again… this is
the big 2008
strategy… goes down
you buy, as it goes
down you buy more,
and as it goes up
you scale out… now
you don’t have to
sell when the stock
falls below 4%…
nobody is going to
put a gun to your
head… and if they
do, you need to tell
them to take the gun
away… but you
definitely shouldn’t
buy more.
Here is the bottom
line…
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The
Bottom Line!:
In a real bear
market, you want to
buy the accidental
high yielders even
if they don’t go up…
they will still pay
out a decent enough
return and that
dividend makes a
great cushion that
keeps the stocks
from falling too
low... In a bear
market, consider the
high-yielders your
salvation. Remember
the rule of 72...
stick with
accidental high
yielders that can
afford, way over
afford to cover the
dividend.
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Jim went on after
this segment to take
questions from
callers, and
responded with his
comments...
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Q:
My question is about
strong high yielding
dividend stocks and
the possibility of
being cut at some
future date. What
would be the warning
signs of a
significant dividend
reduction?
Jim:
I look at the
earnings… and I see
how much they are
than the price of
the dividend each
quarter… if you see
the earnings
starting to go down
so that they can’t
earn the dividend…
then I think you are
going to be
witnessing… slash…
and that is the
tell, you are
looking for what is
known as coverage… I
like to buy stocks
where the earnings
are twice the
dividend… once it
gets below that I
start to get
nervous… and I let
the dividend to the
talking for me… if I
see the dividend
suddenly splurge up,
I have a sense that
something is very,
very wrong… and that
is why we pick
stocks with good
balance sheets… and
we pick stocks that
already have a huge
amount of coverage
before we even pick
an accidental high
yielder.
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Q:
I am interested with
the search for
dividends in this
market, your
thoughts on
preferred stocks. Is
the timing right for
these, or not?
Jim:
A lot of the bank
preferreds seem
cheap to me… but you
know what, in the
wrong
administration, in
the wrong scenerio,
they could wipe out
the preferreds… so I
am going to have to
say no to an asset
class that seem very
cheap to me… because
I worry about the
implications of the
government giving
money to banks, that
is who issues most
of the preferreds,
and then waking up
one day and they
say, you know what
guys you didn’t
spend the money, you
didn’t lend it to
people, so now we
are going to cut
your preferreds… and
so that is why I am
not going to
recommend any
preferreds.
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Q:
I am wondering if
there is room in my
speculation
portfolio funds to
move in and out of
some of the high
yield stocks, kind
of like a dividend
capture?
Jim:
You know I always
used to do dividend
capture programs
when I was at
Goldman Sachs… I
totally get that… I
should do more of
that on this show… I
should be
recommending stocks
more ahead of x
dividend dates… I
think that is a real
smart idea… I think
you are doing it
right… and if you
are sophisticated
enough to do it that
way… I encourage
you, applaud you,
you have horse
sense.
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