Opening Segment #2:

'Top Of Your Game'

Thursday, April 16, 2009

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I touched on the bottoms, but let’s talk about getting out on top...

Jim:
   
  Special edition Mad Money, talking about the tricks of the trade tonight… I am revealing a small but essential part of my accumulated wisdom… to help you know which way a stock… general stocks, okay… the way it will go before it happens… on Mad Money we care only about the future, not the past… that is what the book is about… but I am not here to sell a book… although it would not hurt… we try to divine the future from the past… sure, but it is not the past that we care about… how many times have you made fists of impudent rage as you heard about some stock you never owned going up… or when one that you do own, taking a big hit… I am here to try to help you avoid those moments… to help see how the market moves before anyone else does… so you can get out, get in ahead of the rest of Wall Street…. we have been thru bottoms...

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Thursday, April 16, 2009
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Jim (cont'd):   

Now, I want to talk about something that could be even more important… perhaps the scariest part of investing… tops… people never like to talk about tops, not on Wall Street, especially not in the financial media… when things are good… boy do we ever hate to talk about a top… sure the bears will get all ominous and talk about impending doom endlessly…. but they do… good or bad, it is always the most dangerous thing in the world right… the media might try to make negative forecasts… how much do they love to do that… it is what I call recklessness couched in the language of prudence… but you hardly hear talking about a top… particularly when it is developing… see it does not benefit the Street to talk about tops… the very idea flies against the conventional wisdom… all the time you are told, and I am often denigrated because I disagree with this… and frankly, I love the denigration, but that is because I am strange.

You are told to buy and hold… oh, go and buy an index fund… yeah, that will do it… because you cannot do your job picking stocks… look you know that I think this stuff is garbage… I believe in buy and homework… casticated for that view, oh please… and one of the biggest reasons for that is the existence of tops… buy and hold presumes that they do not exist… that a stock is just endlessly going higher… as if it is some sort of magic projectile… how would you have felt if you took the conventional wisdom and you bought and held the standard S&P 500 index fund thru the crash of 2000... pretty terrible I bet… but if you had been able to spot that top, you could have sold and escaped some serious pain.

Let’s be clear, what exactly is a top… it is where a stock or the whole market reaches some price that is too high and then comes tumbling down… if you try to ride out a top, you could or will lose all of your gains and then some… think 2000... these things hurt… they are a key reason that buy and hold does not work… and I have said before that they are the bane of investing… they chop your money… they kill it.

So how do we see them coming…. and get out before the top hits… here is how I look at tops… we know that they are going to happen first of all… they are part of the firmament… sooner or later every stock, every market reaches a point where it can go no higher… and in fact it starts going a whole lot lower… it might take years… we know this will happen because it has happened historically without fail… if you own a stock, and that stock keeps chugging along going higher and higher… at a certain point you know that you have got to get out… you have got to ring the register… you know a top is coming… that a top has to come… but you cannot get past the emotion of the thing.

Who wants to sell a stock that has been a proven winner… a real money maker… one that you just can’t seem to shake… nobody, that is who… but you have to when you see a top coming… and in order to do that you need to be honest with yourself… to admit that there will be a top from the moment that you buy a stock… and you better be looking for it… that is not how the Street usually approaches tops… for a lot of the institutions, probably your broker too, this sell, sell, sell… is a dirty three words… it is just a temporary breakdown, some mild turbulence… maybe things will turn around tomorrow… yeah, sun tomorrow, okay… but tomorrow never comes.

When I first got to Goldman Sachs, I remember asking my co-workers when I should tell a client to sell… I wanted to give them an exit plan… all of the gray beard would tell me… when the stock gets downgraded, that is when you sell… who wants to sell after a downgrade… after a stock has already hit its top, after it has come down… not Cramer… but how do you know when that top is coming… I will tell you the biggest clues to spot a top before it does its damage… first in this segment and then after the commercial.

One of the best ways that you can tell that a stock, especially one that has had a lot of momentum, is played out… is when the bears start disappearing… when all of the analysts who cover the stock have upgraded… when there are no or very few sell, sell, sells left… when everybody is here… buy, buy, buy… you have got to reconsider… that is a great sign in a momentum stock that you are about to run smack into a top… the reason… there are no bears left to convert…. no sellers left to turn into buyers… everyone is in the pool… no people left standing on the sidelines left to convert either… everyone who wants the stock owns it already… no one can come in and buy it higher… and that means that the buying will stop soon… with no more buying, you have got a top… time to sell… time to ring the register.

The second reason to abandon a stock… even when you know and like, not love, remember these are just pieces of paper… is competition… you might not want to believe that competition matters… especially if you have got a history with your stock… but I am begging you to be objective… the only way that you can tell that the competition is about to come in and destroy your companies business… is being vigilant… the price of profits is eternal vigilance.. it is not enough really to do homework on your stock, you need to monitor the whole section… you need to make sure that there aren’t any up and comers ready to come in and gobble up the market share, and send your stock hurdling down… I would say that a solid 70% of the tops that I have seen were caused by competition… yes, raw competition coming in from where you least expected it… competition as much as anything else is the reason that it is imperative that you spend one hour per week doing homework… it is a huge drag… it will safe you money… otherwise, I can practically guarantee you that you will get blindsided… isn’t it funny, the only guarantees that I can offer on the program, are that you are going to lose money if you don’t do the work… that I can guarantee you… your stock will top and then you will lose money.

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The Bottom Line!:      We do not like to think about stock… they are scary, they are sad… but we know that they exist… we cannot be in denial about them… two of the best ways to see them coming, is by keeping an eye on the analysts, if they get too bullish, you sell… and by watching out for competition, which most of the analysts are not looking at because they are really just following the company… after the break I will tell you more ways to spot tops before they happen... Look for lack of bears & strengthening competition to spot tops. I want everyone to watch the analysts, when they get too bullish… you have got to run, because that is what is going to happen… and when the competition comes calling, you be ready so you know it is time to go.

 

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Jim went on after this segment to take questions from callers, and responded with his comments...

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Q:    One of the things that is very tough for me is maintaining my focus and investment philosophy when a stock goes down, you know I buy a stock and it goes down 10%. The fundamentals are unchanged so I by more, and it goes down another 10%. So my question is do you have any advice on how to maintain this kind of discipline when your stock is sinking? And conversely to keep that discipline on the top…

Jim:   
You are approaching it wrong… you have to use those declines as ways to get more stock, which you have done the homework and you know you like, at a more cheap price… that is why I advocate over and over again… those of you who put a stock position on all at one price are arrogant… you are showing uberous… you are not skeptical enough… when I start a position, like when I start one for
ActionAlertsPlus.com, my charitable trust, that I run thru TheStreet.com, where I am the biggest shareholder… I always like my first buy is probably going to be wrong… the market is going to send my stock down further… or people won’t understand my theory... so let’s buy in pyramid style, start here as it gets lower we buy more… that first 10% is a God send… the second 10% is… hallelujah.

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Q:    Do certain sectors bottom reliably at certain times of the year?

Jim:   
Yes, historically and this is of great confusion to people, but I am going to tell you why, it is kind of complex… the cyclical stocks, the big mineral stocks, the big steel stocks, aluminum stocks, chemical paper, they bottom at the end of each calendar year… why is that… because beginning in January the analysts all come out and they say positive things, they give you their next year outlook… that usually is te high, that is when we watch the cyclicals move up, and you sell them come February… we also have a top in tech, the first week in January, and traditionally a bottom in tech in July and August… why is that, in January everyone is real bullish, too bullish… in August everyone is too bearish, those are great times to buy technology.
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Q:    I know how to select a stock based on the rules, do the homework, listen to the conference calls, compare PE’s to competitors. But once you have got a candidate, you have got to figure out entrance and exit prices. Now I already know don’t pay more than twice the growth rate, and schnitzel in and schnitzel out, but other than that can you give me a little more guidance on how you determine entry and exit prices for a position. Especially exit prices.

Jim:   
My mom taught me this stuff… exit price, are you being greedy, are you being a pig… look, I like to sell as a stock goes up… even great stocks, let me give you an example… when I see a stock that becomes more… if I have a diversified portfolio of 10 stocks, and each has got 1/10th of the money in… if one stock gets to 2/10ths and you have not taken anything off, you are being greedy… if a stock goes up 25% and you have not taken anything off… you are being greedy…it is greed that determines… not the fundamentals… that is what would have happened in so many great rallies had people realized they were being greedy… they would have all made more money… we cannot call tops per say… we can sell as tops develop.
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