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Final
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'Energizing
Profits'
CEO
Interview
with
Kevin Burke,
CEO |
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Tuesday,
April 21, 2009 |
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Jim's
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this stock |
STOCK
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Closing
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ED |
38.27 |
Consolidated Edison Inc.
(ED)
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Jim:
When it comes to the
utilities… which the
play book says that
you should own
during a recession…
for the consistent
earnings and big
dividends… we have
been a little
frightened about the
prospects of
President Obama’s
anti-global warming
cap-n-trade
proposal… which
would force
polluters to buy
carbon permits…
cause costs to rise
for most utilities…
and worst of all
probably make energy
more expensive for
everyone in the
country… although,
the worry has
diminished lately…
as it seems less and
less likely that the
most draconian
cap-n-trade
proposals will be
able to pass the
Senate… we have
heard from a lot of
CEO’s in the
industry, we keep
bringing them on
about this issue…
and they have
generally been
pretty unfavorably
disposed towards
this part of Obama’s
agenda… but while we
are equal
opportunity guys
here… Kevin Burke,
the chairman and CEO
of one of my
absolutely favorite
utilities,
Consolidated Edison Inc.
(ED)…
has actually been a
long time proponent
of cap-n-trade.
ConEd has already
reduced its
greenhouse gas
emissions by 29%
over the last 5
years… but its owned
electric capacity is
47% gas, and 53%
oil, no coal… that
is still a lot of
fossil fuel.. so I
wonder how the
company could
withstand what is
basically just a
fancy way to tax,
and then create a
market in pollution
rights… maybe part
of is that ConEd is
already subject to
state level CO2
restrictions in New
York where it
operates… could it
just be about
personal politics…
or maybe I should
not be so worried at
all about
cap-n-trade… ConEd
is a notoriously big
juicy 6.2% yield…
just raised the
dividend in January
for the 35th
consecutive year… it
is likely that New
York will give the
company permission
to raise rates by
10%… and that is
something that most
analysts have not
baked into their
estimates yet… hey,
it is a great
utility… I do not
think that the CEO
would be arguing for
cap-n-trade if he
thought it would
seriously endanger
the company… but if
that is the case, I
need to know what
makes ConEd
different from all
of the other
utilities that I
have had on… and if
it is not different,
why the rest of the
industry is so wrong
to be afraid.
So let’s talk to
ConEd’s chairman and
CEO, Kevin Burke,
who is also going to
be an honored guest
at the Fire
Department of New
York Foundation
Awards dinner… a
fabulous cause,
which I will be
hosting right here
at the Hilton
Thursday night… I
might get a few yuks…
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Tuesday,
October 22, 2008
(Cont'd from
above)...
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Jim
(cont'd):
Jim:
Mr. Burke, welcome
to Mad Money...
Kevin:
Good to be
here, thanks for
having me on the
show.
Jim:
Very exciting sir,
because you know
that I have been a
huge supporter of
your stock and when
it really dipped
down to 7% yield, I
told people to buy
it hand over fist.
Kevin:
It has
been a good buy in
the last year. If
you look back a
year, and you add in
that dividend, we
are off by less than
2%. I wish my entire
portfolio was off
less than 2%.
Jim:
Well, that is why I
have been saying to
people, listen here
is a way to handle
your 401K during the
down times, own some
ConEd. But you know
everybody wants to
own Intel, or they
want to own
Microsoft, they do
not care about the
dividends.
Kevin:
Everybody
should have a place
in their portfolios
for some solid
income stocks.
Companies that have
been around for a
long time, that have
had a pretty
conservative
business model, that
have done well for
their shareholders
and customers over a
long period of time.
Jim:
Thank you, thank
you, because I can’t
emphasize enough
that that is the
case. And I think
people say well
ConEd, that is
boring… I never
regard that making
money when things
are good, and not
losing that much
when things are bad
all that boring… if
I want excitement I
go to the new Yankee
Stadium, or the City
Field, right?
Kevin:
And I
think that keeping
the lights on in New
York City has been
very exciting over
the years. It is a
great city.
Jim:
Alright, let’s talk
about that. Everyone
knows and everyone
is very worried
about the New York
city economy… when I
tell people that
they should be
buying ConEd, is wow
we have all kinds of
problems, the banks
are in trouble,
people aren’t
hiring, how can you
recommend a utility
that needs New York
to do well. Can you
explain that to
people, why it is
not that simple?
Kevin:
We look at
our sales, and the
sales are off a very
small percentage.
You know people do
focus on the
financial services
markets, and those
are very important
in terms of the
total personal
income in New York
City and New York
state, and the
taxes. They are off
in terms of
employment, but if
you look at the
broader base of
services in New York
City, the service
employment industry,
which is about 5
times as much as
just the financials
services employment,
they are off less
than a half a
percent in the last
year. So I think
that there is still
a lot of opportunity
for a strong New
York City, people
are here because
they want to do
business in New
York. People have
been coming to New
York City from
around the country,
and around the world
for years. That
immigration has
kicked up in the
last year or so,
because people
understand that if
you want to do
business, you come
to New York City.
Jim:
Alright, Mr. Burke
why is it that you
don’t fear, like so
many of the other
utility executives
that I bring on, a
tough cap-n-trade
program?
Kevin:
We stopped
burning coal in the
late 60’s or the
early 70’s at
ConEdison. We now
have sold most of
that generating
plants. The plants
that we own are
connected into our
steam system. About
a decade ago the New
York state moved
towards what they
called a
restructuring of the
industry. That
allowed their
customers to go out
into the market and
buy their
electricity from a
host of different
suppliers. In order
to create a
competitive market
in generation. They
wound up, we sold
our power plants to
a lot of different
owners, so we own a
small percentage. We
own about 700
megawatts of
electric generation
in New York City,
and that is all
connected into our
steam system. That
is about 5% of what
we need on a hot
summer day. So in
terms of our assets,
our assets are
really in
transmission and
distribution for
electricity, gas and
steam.
Jim:
One last question,
10% rate hike,
people are saying,
that means to me
that you are not
done boosting your
dividend.
Kevin:
We
understand the
importance of that
dividend to our
investors. We have
had a great track
record, you
mentioned this
earlier, 35 years of
increases. There is
only two utilities
in the S&P 500 that
have a record like
that. We are going
to continue to look
at that, but you
have to tie your
dividend into what
is going on with
earnings per share.
And we have also
tried to keep a
pretty conservative
balance sheet. That
has been important
to us for a long
time.
Jim:
Excellent, Kevin
Burke, I will see
you Thursday night.
Thank you.
Kevin:
See you
Thursday, thank you.
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
That is Kevin Burke,
Chairman, President
and CEO of
Consolidated Edison,
he and I are going
to be working for
the Fire Department
Foundation in New
York… now you
understand why I
like
Consolidated Edison Inc.
(ED)…
conservative, good
yield, and did not
disappoint when
everyone else was
losing money… you
have got room in
your portfolio for
an ED.
[verbatim recap]
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