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Friday,
May 22, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
Jim (cont'd):
Jim:
Mr. Jackson,
welcome to Mad
Money...
Keith:
Thanks Jim,
great to be here.
Jim:
Alright, I was
going over your
conference call from
the last time, and I
was thinking you
know what... a lot
of our viewers, they
say, oh it's a
semiconductor
company... well,
they make chips...
but they don't
understand that
there are millions
of different kinds.
And one of the
things that I
thought would really
help people
understand you is
that, in the
conference call, you
mention that you
make the chips for
game boxes. A lot of
our audience
understands the game
box... If we broke
open a game box
(e.g., XBOX,
Playstation), what
would fall out
that's made by ON
Semi?...
Keith:
Actually, quite
a bit. You'd find
all of the power
components which
make up both the
traditional charger
that you know about,
and also inside the
box... everything
that's powering the
CPU and graphics
processors, and
driving the video,
etc. All of those
chips you're going
to find from ON
Semiconductor.
Jim:
Really? So
that's a tremendous
amount fo
semiconductor share
within a game box,
isn't it?
Keith:
Absolutely.
Yes.
Jim:
Now, they also
will say, Jim, okay,
that's a sexy
business but, when
we looked it up
online, we saw that
they have an
automotive business,
and there's no way
that you want to
sell any chips into
automobiles. What do
you say about that?
Keith:
Well, you
know, the automobile
business is going to
be slow, and it's
going to be slow for
a while until the
credit crunch is
over, but the
electronic content
in an automobile
continues to go up
pretty dramatically.
We've got well over
$15 per automobile,
and that's growing
at a rate of over
7-8% a year, so even
though there's going
to be some slowness
in the end units, we
do believe the
electronics content
is still a place to
be.
Jim:
There is a
tremendous,
tremendous move
going on... and we
talk about this
almost nightly...
with Chinese
demand... I think
many people feel
like, well, it's ON
Semiconductor...
it's an American
company... there
might be some China
exposure but what
really matters is
America... That is
not the case for
your business, is
it? It's really got
big China
exposure...
Keith:
It's got a
very big China
exposure, into
greater China, over
40% of our sales, at
this point, go
there. So it's a
very big presense.
Jim:
And we know
that the Chinese
have committed a $40
billion stimulus to
handsets and to
cellphones. That is
a market that you
are very strong in,
isn't it?
Keith:
Yes it is.
We've seen a very
strong pick up for
both the indigenous
suppliers there, and
also the big names
that sell into
China.
Jim:
Alright now, on
May 7th, Citigroup
came out and said,
"Orders could
accelerate through
June. Potential for
a healthy 3Q-4Q
quarter-over-quarter
growth. Well here we
are... I mean look,
we're in this
semiconductor
business... this
matters... we're a
couple of weeks
later... Does the
Citigroup report
make sense?
Keith:
It still
makes sense. We've
seen backlogs
building, and the
rate of backlog
build increasing
over previous
quarters, so... So
far, at least, it
still looks like the
demand pick up in
Asia is continuing.
Jim:
Okay... May
6th... Webush says,
"Management is
cautiously
optimistic that the
current cycle
troughed in first
quarter." Now, there
is a lot of talk,
today and yesterday,
that maybe we're
going to have a
double dip... that
things are going to
get worse... they're
going to go back to
where they were in
the first quarter...
That does not look
like to be the case
from your order book
does it?
Keith:
No it
doesn't, and I'm not
sure I believe in
that premise,
because the
semiconductor market
actually corrected
more than the end
markets pretty
dramatically... Q1
being the worst...
so, even if there is
a demand slowdown in
the second half,
it's not going to go
back to where it
was.
Jim:
Alright, in the
conference call, you
talk about...
"During the first
quarter of our
billing basis, our
top five product
original
customers"... The
first one, candidly,
I don't know them...
"Continental
Automotive
Systems"... Who is
that?
Keith:
They're a
European-based
automotive
conglomerate that
actually has been
buying a lot of
properties over the
last few years...
and they're a very
large supplier of
components to the
automotive industry.
Jim:
Well, I'll tell
you... I learned a
lot. Look, one of
the things I'm
trying to do for
everybody... look,
they know INTC...
everybody's just a
second banana to
Intel... That's not
true. You make very
different stuff...
Now, I thought this
was interesting,
because I care very
passionately about
balance sheets...
MOT stuck you with a
lot of debt when
they spun you off...
It looks like you
guys are taking your
cash flow and paying
down that debt...
Tell me about your
balance sheet...
Keith:
Absolutely.
It continues to
improve. I think
there's a couple of
things I'd let you
know... One is...
the actual cash
interest we are
paying is less than
3% on that balance
sheet, so...
Jim:
Really?...
Keith:
Yes.
Jim:
Wow... is it
that convert, right?
Keith:
Through the
converts (i.e.,
convertible
bonds)... correct.
But we're looking
for opportunities,
frankly, where our
cash is earning less
than 1%, where we
can get some
discounted buybacks,
and we've been doing
that... with over
$200 million worth
of debt buyback
going on in the last
couple of quarters.
Jim:
Boy, I've got
to tell you Mr.
Jackson... if you
hadn't reported on
the worst day for
technology since the
year began, I think
people would have
sat up and taken
notice of this. This
is a great story.
Mr. Jackson, thank
you so much for
coming on Mad Money.
Keith:
Thank you
very much.
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Alright guys,
look... I'm trying
to distinguish at
all times, what's
the next wave of
tech that's
coming... It is the
smaller-cap
stocks... You
already heard a
great quarter from
ON Semiconductor Corp. (ONNN).
There's no new
quarter about to
come out new week...
The quarter was
strong. The market
took its eye off of
tech. That's your
opportunity... I say
(bull sound)... and
it's Friday...
you've got the whole
weekend to study it.
You should be buying
ONNN right here...
buy, buy, buy!...
right now.
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