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Opening Segment #3: |
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'Driven
To Succeed'
CEO
Interview
with
Robert
Gross, CEO
Monro
Muffler &
Brake |
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Thursday,
May 28, 2009 |
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Jim's
rating on
this stock |
STOCK
SYMBOL |
Closing
price that
day |
Full Company Name |
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MNRO |
25.93 |
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Monro Muffler Brake Inc.
(MNRO)
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Jim:
Every once in a
while the market
actually makes it
easy… that is how I
felt when I looked
at the 3 ¾% pounding
that Monro Muffler
absorbed today..
after reporting a
quarter after what I
thought was pretty
darn good… and so
did all of the
analysts who said
congratulations
after every
question… since the
auto repairs chains
earnings only
matched the streets
expectations and did
not exceed them… the
people who sold
Monro Muffler down
hard today… only
cared about seeing
three letters… BTE,
better than
expected… and they
were no where to be
found… but the
pullback is great
news for you… at
least if you do not
already own the
stock… as
Monro Muffler Brake Inc.
(MNRO), which
I have liked every
since I recommended
it on August 19,
2008 at $20... 27%
gain… is the premier
play on all of those
car dealerships that
Chrysler and GM are
shutting down.
According to Monro
Mufflers CEO,
another 3000
dealerships around
the country are
expected to close…
but people who are
about to lose their
dealerships still
need to their cars
serviced… they still
need to have them
repaired… and that
is where Monro comes
in… its competition
is being vastly
reduced… and GM’s
decent into total
zombie status,
should only make
things better… this
is a long term story
that will play out
over many quarters…
maybe even years…
put the stock pulled
back today based
entirely on short
term considerations…
Monro may not have
satisfied those who
were looking for an
earnings beat for
the hot money… but
the quarter was
chock full of
terrific stuff for
the rest of us…
comparable store
sales numbers up
11%… I defy anyone
to come up with 5
companies that have
double digit
comparables…
dividend boost, even
though it was just a
penny… yields mere
1.1%… but you know
what, I will take
any dividend boost I
can get… especially
because many
companies have cut
or eliminated their
dividends this year.
Beyond that Monro
acquired 26 auto
tire care centers in
order to enter the
St. Louis market… on
top of everything
else, Monro is
clearly planning for
the future… the
company took
advantage of the low
cost of advertising
and promotions to
pick off customers
who were unwilling
to pay high
dealership prices…
or uncomfortable
with the prospect
with their
dealership closing…
laying the ground
work for when these
thousand of
dealerships close… I
think the company is
in a very solid
position… and while
my instincts say
that this pullback
is a buying
opportunity… I still
want to do some more
homework to get a
handle on the
quarter… and the
industry wide shift
from dealerships to
repair shops… so
lets dig deeper by
talking to Robert
Gross, Monro
Muffler’s Chairman
and CEO…
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Thursday,
May 28, 2009
(Cont'd from
above)...
Jim
(cont'd):
Jim:
Mr. Gross,
welcome back to Mad
Money....
Robert:
Booyah, Jim,
thanks for having
us.
Jim:
Booyah chief.
Okay, we know and
one of the reasons
that we are
insisting that you
buy Monro Muffler,
is frankly, that we
are just at the
beginning of the
dealerships closing.
You did 11% comp
store without many
dealerships closing
around this country,
didn’t you?
Robert:
Yes, we did.
We had a great
quarter.
Jim:
Now, isn’t it
true… of the
dealerships that
have been announced
to be closed, how
many have actually
closed so far, do
you think?
Robert:
Very few.
Hundreds have closed
over the last 6
months. The lions
share of the
Chrysler’s closing
start June 9th. And
GM has not announced
their total closing
list. But that will
obviously be very
big numbers in the
future.
Jim:
What will be
the overlap between
a closing and a
store that you may
have within 5 or 10
minutes from one of
those dealerships
closing?
Robert:
Well, the
Chrysler stores that
have been
specifically
delineated. 65 of
those locations that
are closing are
within 5 miles of
Monro or Mr. Tire,
and 88 of them are
within 10 miles of
Monro or Mr. Tire.
Jim:
Mr. Gross, why
are you given the
fact that
dealerships nation
wide are closing,
why have you taken
your time to expand.
Because I know you
just moved into St.
Louis. Aren’t there
lots of areas that
Monro Muffler are
not in right now?
Robert:
There are
lots of areas. We
are only in, now
with Missouri, we
will be in 19 states
with only what will
be 740 stores. The
opportunity for us,
and that current
geography, is that
we can get 3 times
bigger. Stay within
that geography, and
has we have always
stated, our number
one goal is store
density and market
share. So we want to
fill in the markets
because it makes our
business model and
operating margins
better. And it makes
it more convenient
to the customer
where the dealers
are going the other
way.
Jim:
It is nice to
do these fill ins.
Why can’t you take
advantage, with your
good balance sheet
getting better,
paying down debt.
And make the big
move, and take over
somebody who is
struggling and is in
debt and really
can’t make it thru
this period?
Robert:
Well, a lot
of the deals that we
have done, this is
the 10th deal in the
last seven years,
have been fill ins.
We did 70 stores in
’06 with the
pro-care chain. And
with our operating
model good and
getting better, and
already being a low
cost operator, in
this kind of
environment it is
not the time to risk
the company with a
transformational
deal. When we can,
for as long as the
eye can see
especially with what
is going on with the
dealers, look at a
20% bottom line
growth on a
consistent basis
without taking a
significant risk.
Jim:
I know a lot of
people think of
muffler, I think now
of tire. Tire costs
are going down. Will
you be able to
capture some of the
gross margin of
tires coming down
and price increases
that you put on last
year?
Robert:
Sure, I mean
we raised our prices
5% in September and
up 3% recently. And
both tire costs and
oil costs are both
going down for us.
Albeit, remember we
had a 60% cost to
goods increase in
60% of our products
over the last 3
years. So we are
just starting to get
back the gross
margin that we gave
up. And that is why
we commented that we
would expect our
gross margin to
improve 100 basis
points this year
alone, just on cost
of goods.
Jim:
Have you ever
thought about buying
an auto parts kind
of company. For
instance, just to go
back to the
transformational…
but I am from
Philadelphia, Pep
Boys used to be a
great company… now
they are just kind
of hanging on… would
that kind of
publicly traded
company be good for
a big regional
buyer. Or again is
that just too
transformational?
Robert:
It is
transformational and
it is very risky.
Pep Boys has two
pieces of the
business, the
service business
which we compete
against them with.
But they also have
the parts business,
which they have some
very stiff
competition from the
O’Reilly’s, the
Advance, the Auto
Zones. And it is
going to be very
difficult for them
to do well on the
parts side of the
business. Certainly
the service side of
the business has the
opportunity. The
risk and the
question is, do what
you gain from that
kind of deal on the
service side make up
for all of the risk
that you are
incurring from the
parts business.
Where there are
bigger, stronger
competitor on the
parts side of the
business. And the
parts side is really
a commodity
business, where if
you do not have the
buying power and the
infrastructure like
many always do, it
is difficult to
compete. I would
much rather play in
a service business
where commodity is
just a piece of the
costs of goods, but
people are really
looking for service
and value in an
industry where trust
is long and hard to
come buy. And get a
fair price for what
we do.
Jim:
Alright, Robert
Gross, Monro
Muffler’s Chairman
and CEO. Thank you
very much.
Robert:
Thank you,
Jim.
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Jim's
comments AFTER the
interview:
Alright, it is going
to be an incremental
gain… a smaller year
gain… would I have
preferred a
transformational… I
do not think that he
is risking it… but
he does… he runs the
business better than
I do… I think that
it is slowly go up…
do not expect this
stock to double in a
years time… this is
not
Research
In Motion (RIMM),
it is not
Apple (AAPL)…
it is a slow and
steady wins the race
stock.
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