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[Beginning of
Cramer's
verbatim
comments for
this segment...]
Jim:
In this
incredibly
difficult...
incredibly
misleading
market...
because the
prices just
swing on no
volume... you've
got to fall back
on the long-term
themes that will
likely pull
through no
matter what
happens
internationally,
which is what's
driving our
markets right
now.
And there are
very few themes
that we like
more than
natural gas...
the energy
source that's
40% cleaner than
coal, 30%
cleaner than
oil, and much
more realistic
as a bridge
fuel, than wind
or solar, when
it comes to
combating
climate change
or ending our
addiction to
foreign oil...
especially since
we have so darn
much of the
stuff in the
country. And,
because it could
create hundreds
of thousands of
jobs building
out natural gas
infrastructure.
Natural gas
stocks have been
some of the most
amazing
outperformers in
the market for
the last two
decades. But now
we have to worry
that they could
soon hit a
wall... a wall
called
Washington.
To listen to
President Obama,
who absolutely
adores the
chimera of
"clean coal"...
an oxymoron if
there ever was
one... or if you
read his
budget... you
wouldn't even
know natural gas
exists, except
for something to
be taxed.
Luckily there
are some good
guys in
Washington when
it comes to the
need to adopt
natural gas.
One of them is a
man by the name
of John
Sullivan. He's
the Republican
Congressman from
Oklahoma's 1st
District.
We learned first
hand the
importance of
natural gas to
the great state
of Oklahoma when
we visited
Oklahoma
University's
Price School of
Business on our
Back to School
Tour, back in
October, where
we could see
that the state
is really,
really wealthy,
and it allows
kids to go to
school at a much
lower price than
most states,
because it's got
so much oil and
gas. Oklahoma
accounts for
about 10% of our
country's total
natural gas
production, so
Sullivan
understands the
importance of
this fuel.
He's already
pushed a bill
that would
expand research
and development
into natural gas
engines through
the House of
Representatives,
and he's the
lead Republican
sponsor and
co-author of the
Natural Gas
Act... a piece
of legislation
that would do
wonders for the
industry by
creating tax
credits for auto
makers who make
natural gas
fueled cars and
trucks available
in America, as
well as to the
consumers who
buy them. This
is the act that
Boone Pickens
came on the show
and said would
be passed by
Memorial Day...
Given the number
of obstacles to
natural gas
futures coming
out... the
future coming
out of
Washington...
from cap and
trade, to
attempts to
over-regulate
hydraulic "fracking"
which is how you
get the stuff
out, we need to
understand the
political lay of
the land, and I
can't think of
anyone better
positioned to
help us than
Congressman John
Sullivan of
Oklahoma...
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Jim:
Representative
Sullivan,
welcome to Mad
Money...
Sullivan:
Thank
you Jim. It's an
honor to be
here.
Jim:
Okay... I need
your help. Many
of the great
executives in
the natural gas
industry have
told me that
it's just a
matter of time
before the
President comes
around to this
view. They told
me this in
September...
they told me
this right
before the State
of the Union...
and they told me
this right
before the
budget. Uh, I
don't see it
that way, and I
know from your
lead off from
the House Select
Committee on
Energy that you
too are kind of
mystified. Could
you please tell
me what is
happening in
Washington, that
this fuel seems
to be in last
place, after
wind, after
solar, after oil
and,
incredibly...
after coal?
Sullivan:
Well, like you
said earlier,
natural gas
needs to be the
bridge fuel as
we look at an
"all of the
above" energy
strategy...
looking at wind,
solar,
nuclear... all
those things...
coal... all
those things
need to be
looked at, but
they aren't
going to happen
for a long time.
The alternative
energy sources
aren't going to
happen for a
long time. So
using natural
gas makes all
the sense in the
world. Barack
Obama has paid
lip service to
it in meetings,
but he publicly
has not said
much. I thought,
in his State of
the Union
address... and
you did too
Jim... that he
was going to
mention
something on
natural gas, and
he just... he
failed to do so.
We have 120
years of
reserves of
natural gas here
in the United
States of
America. It's
abundant. It's
American-made.
We can lessen
our dependence
on foreign oil
if we use it
here. I mean,
we're giving
money to people
who want to
terrorize us. We
can use it right
here. We need to
get more natural
gas vehicles on
the roads here
in the United
States. There
are 10 million
natural gas
vehicles around
the world... in
Latin America,
Asia and
Europe... Only
150,000 here in
the United
States. We need
to get it going,
man.
Jim:
Now, one of
the things
that... you
know, look, I've
got to tell you,
because I soul
search about
this everyday,
because
remember, we
even had the
incoming
director of the
Sierra Club come
on and say
exactly what you
are saying, and
this is the
Sierra Club... I
mean, aren't
they supposed to
be worried about
the environment?
Yeah. They think
this is a
natural. But I
actually see
things going
backward. I pick
up the paper,
and there's
almost an
article every
other day...
particularly in
the New York
Times... about
how the kind of
drilling that
has been done
for the last 40
years, say, in
this country, is
about to spoil
our drinking
water. You
actually raised
the question in
the key
Exxon/XTO merger
hearings about
the idea that
the EPA could
get rid of the
Safe Drinking
Water Act
exemption, which
could really
pretty much shut
down drilling
everywhere...
except for
Oklahoma because
you've got some
preemption. Is
it possible that
the EPA is going
to come in and
start regulating
this when they
don't have the
right to do it?
Sullivan:
It's a
back door
attempt to try
to get at the
industry. You
know, like you
said Jim,
hydraulic
fracking is one
of the ways
we've been able
to get these 120
years of
reserves. You
know, shale
drilling...
horizontal
drilling...
going down,
going sideways,
very precise,
and hydraulic
fracking...
shooting fluid
down in the
formation,
cracking the
rock and getting
the gas out.
Jim:
Right.
Sullivan:
For 60
years, they've
been using it.
There's not
one... not one
instance where
it's leaked into
ground water.
It's absolutely
asinine that
they're trying
to do this.
Jim:
But how can
that be? The New
York Times has a
story every
other day saying
it had to be
doing it!
Sullivan:
No.
It's not. It's
not. There's not
one instance of
it.
Jim:
Well, they
can't be making
it up! It
wouldn't get
passed the
editors!
Sullivan:
They
are making it
up... they are
making it up!
And the Exxon
Mobile/XTO
merger... that
was contingent
that this will
not pass or
Exxon Mobile
will back out of
the deal. And
you know what?
If we get on
natural gas...
and I'm glad,
Jim, that you're
a crusader on
this, because we
need you so
badly... you and
Boone Pickens
are helping a
lot on this...
but we need...
It's going to
create jobs in
America...
Jim:
I know!
Sullivan:
Barack
Obama's talking
about government
jobs. These are
private sector
jobs. There are
3 million people
that work in the
natural gas
industry. If we
pass these bills
in congress and
get an
infrastructure
built up like
you said, we
could create a
million, two
million jobs
more in America.
That'd be great.
Jim:
Right.
Sullivan:
Also,
it's a national
security issue.
We need to
lessen our
dependence on
foreign oil.
It's got to
stop.
Jim:
Well, could
you help me?
We've been
trying... and,
again, I play
with an open
hand on the
show... We've
been trying to
get one single
senator in the
United States...
and I think
there's like a
hundred of
them... There
has got to be
one senator
that's willing
to come on Mad
Money and say
that he thinks
natural gas
could be
important. We
can't find him.
I mean, it's
like, Where's
Waldo?... I
mean, where do
we find that
senator?
Sullivan:
Well,
we need to. We
need to have
senate
leadership on
this issue, and
in the House,
and I'm working
hard in the
House. I'm
shouting from
the rooftops.
I'm glad I've
gotten to get on
your show. We're
going to do all
we can to get
out there. You,
Jim... again,
thanks for your
leadership on
this...
Jim:
No
problem!..
Sullivan:
And T.
Boone Pickens
has helped a lot
too. He's
endorsed my
plan. It's a
bill that's on
the Pickens
Plan. He's been
a tremendous
help too. Thank
God for him.
Jim:
You know,
Aubrey McClennan
(CEO of
Chesapeake
Energy) said
some stuff last
week. He said,
"...and I just
don't know how a
great of people,
as smart as the
people we've
elected to lead
this country
are, can ignore
what I think is
one of the
greatest
technological
advances of our
time." Is it
possible that
the technology
has happened so
quickly that
maybe there are
people who don't
know we have
these resources
because, you
know, I'm
looking at these
articles about
how we're going
to bring in
Alaskan natural
gas. Alaskan
natural gas is a
fraction of what
we have in
Pennsylvania, so
maybe people
just don't get
it yet?
Sullivan:
They
don't get it. I
mean, it's not
the
technological
advances.
Horizontal
drilling and
hydraulic
fracking has
been going on
for a long time.
We need to
develop this. I
mean, this is a
national
security issue.
It's going to
create jobs.
Aubrey McClennan
at Chesapeake's
right. Larry
Nichols at Devon
Energy is right.
Randy Fauch at
Laredo... These
guys are leaders
and they're
trying to get
the message out.
There is a new
group in
Washington
called Angan
American
National Gas
Association.
They're going to
try really hard
to get the
message out.
I've met with
them. We're
going to work
hard to get this
out. But it's
going to take
people like you,
Jim... me... and
others in
Congress...
Jim:
I'm just a
cable TV host.
Sullivan:
What's
that?
Jim:
I'm just a
cable TV host,
man.
Sullivan:
Well,
you have a big
following here
in Tulsa, and
you have a big
following around
the country. I
know that.
Jim:
Okay,
appreciate it.
Well look, if
you can find us
a senator, I'll
take any
senator. You
know, I'll
take...
anybody... I
don't want to
name anybody...
happy to have
one!
Sullivan:
Keep
up the good
work, Jim.
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Representative John
Sullivan,
Congressman from
Oklahoma's 1st
District...
Thank you so much
for coming on the
show. Guys, I
would not keep up
the work if I did
not think we were
making money.
These have been the
best-performing
stocks. If
they were the
worst-performing
stocks... as much as
I care about this
issue personally...
you would never hear
about it once.
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